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Initial Complaint
05/21/2024
- Complaint Type:
- Product Issues
- Status:
- Answered
I purchased a used vehicle on April 4, 2024. My independent vehicle inspection discovered a misaligned headlight assembly, which was discovered to be damage to the front frame therefore it cannot be corrected. It has been to the collision center for repair on three different occasions. I contacted the dealer last Wednesday to let them know the bumper has come apart for the fourth time and to exchange it since there is no solution. The manager told me I would have to trade in and pay sales tax all over again. The vehicle is unsafe, headlights point downward making it impossible to see at night and the bumper is sticking out. I need reliable transportation but instead, the dealer has put an additional 500 miles on my truck driving it to be repaired. The deception from the attempt to hide the damage is unacceptable and just want reliable and safe transportation.Business response
05/21/2024
Thank you for your recent feedback and experience. We strive hard to provide an exceptional experience and if there are any issues we do try to fix and or repair any issues that become known. We have fixed and or fixing the known issue with the vehicle. We also have offered a trade/purchase toward a different vehicle.Customer response
05/23/2024
Complaint: ********
I am rejecting this response because:I requested a vehicle exchange because the problem has had now 4 attempts to repair since the initial purchase date of April 4, 2024. A trade in will require an additional $4,996 for an identical vehicle exchange. (Attached are two invoices, it is currently in their possession as of Tuesday, May 21.) This is unacceptable because the dealership is aware of the ongoing issue and their attempts to repair the problem are unsuccessful, futhermore, the purchase price is up for renegotiation because of the frame damage. This requires a permanent solution that does not involve constantly returning it for repair attempts. I simply want an exchange for a vehicle without major defects.
Sincerely,
**** ******Business response
05/31/2024
The vehicle has been repaired and currently is operating condition. We have been made aware of issues, communicated, offered alternatives and even gone above and beyond any additional requests that may not even have been an issue. The bumper is currently repaired. We also have offered a trade in value toward a different vehicle.Customer response
06/03/2024
Complaint: ********
I am rejecting this response because: The issue with the headlight has not corrected. What is mostly insulting is it was redelivered to me a third time on May 22 with the headlight still visibly detached. I immediately made the dealer aware that it is clearly not repaired. Dan told me to take the vehicle or he would take other actions. I need a replacement vehicle that does not require me to buy another vehicle all over again. The option offered was to trade the vehicle and pay for everything all over including taxes, tags, and fees. All I want is a non defective vehicle which was what I thought I was doing. The attempts to repair have only gotten worse and the additional mileage has been 3,000 miles added to the odometer since my purchase. The Toyota App showed the vehicle parked on May 22 at a personal residence and the next day, I had to get a tire repair.
Sincerely,
**** ******Customer response
06/03/2024
Continued from 6/3/24 response. (The image was too large)
Attached is the picture of the headlight on the day of the completed repair. This is not what I agreed to purchase and I would like what I purchased.
Customer response
06/03/2024
As of today June 3, 2024, the damage is not corrected. Here are the current images of the issues. The headlights are not aligned with the bumper and the bumper is not affixed properly.Business response
06/05/2024
We have repaired the vehicle and done everything possible.Initial Complaint
09/11/2023
- Complaint Type:
- Service or Repair Issues
- Status:
- Resolved
I purchased a brand new 2023 Toyota Prius from this location. When I had purchased the car, I was only given one set of keys for my car with a verbal promise that I would eventually receive another set in the mail. It’s been several months mow and I haven’t received the extra set nor been able to obtain any information on when I can expect to receive what I’m owed. I have followed up several times through email with the sales rep that was VERY keen on selling me a car and making his commission, but I’ve not heard anything back. I’ve tried calling their location and speaking to the customer relation person they have on staff but haven never heard back (multiple calls over several weeks). As far as I’m concerned the business only cared about locking my money in, and anything after that isn’t worth the time or effort. I just want what I promised and to be treated with a modicum of respect, as I’ve tried to approach this amicably but been given the cold shoulder.Bureau response
09/11/2023
Bob *****
Koons Westminster Toyota
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Dear Bob *****:
Better Business Bureau (BBB) received a complaint about your business. BBB understands that there are two sides to every dispute, and we have not pre-judged the validity of this claim. This is your opportunity to address the concerns of your consumer and to rebuild the trust that first brought you together. BBB seeks to help businesses resolve their disputes, whether or not they are accredited with BBB. The complaint was submitted on 9/9/2023 and was assigned an ID of *********
How do I take care of this?
Your BBB is requesting a written response to this complaint within the next 7 calendar days. Your prompt and professional response greatly enhances the chance for a successful resolution and will further your reputation as a BBB Accredited Business. If you received this complaint via email, the fastest and easiest way to view and respond is to the simply click on the “Respond to this Complaint”, link located on the left. All responses will be copied to the complainant.
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Enter the following code: **************What should I include in my response?
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We look forward to helping you and your customer work toward an amicable resolution.
Sincerely,
Lisa ****
Dispute Resolution Team Leader
***********************
Phone: ###-###-####
CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE INFORMATIONCustomer Information:Jacob ********* ***** ** ************ ** *****Daytime Phone: ###-###-####
E-mail: ***********************The details of this matter are as follows:Complaint Involves:
Service IssuesCustomer’s Statement of the Problem:
I purchased a brand new 2023 Toyota Prius from this location. When I had purchased the car, I was only given one set of keys for my car with a verbal promise that I would eventually receive another set in the mail. It’s been several months mow and I haven’t received the extra set nor been able to obtain any information on when I can expect to receive what I’m owed. I have followed up several times through email with the sales rep that was VERY keen on selling me a car and making his commission, but I’ve not heard anything back. I’ve tried calling their location and speaking to the customer relation person they have on staff but haven never heard back (multiple calls over several weeks). As far as I’m concerned the business only cared about locking my money in, and anything after that isn’t worth the time or effort. I just want what I promised and to be treated with a modicum of respect, as I’ve tried to approach this amicably but been given the cold shoulder.
Desired Settlement:
Other (requires explanation)
I want the second key I was promised. They are NOT inexpensive.
Bureau response
09/11/2023
Jacob ******
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Dear Jacob ******:
Thank you for contacting the Better Business Bureau. This message is in regard to your complaint submitted on 9/9/2023 against Koons Westminster Toyota. Your complaint was assigned ID *********
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Feedback from consumers is vital to BBB. We appreciate your willingness to report this information to us. We look forward to helping you and the business work toward a resolution. Please do not hesitate to contact us with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Lisa ****
Dispute Resolution Team Leader
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Phone: ###-###-####Business response
09/11/2023
Toyota had a chip shortage during the pandemic. There is now a program that they are releasing these keys in waves. This vin number does not currently have a release date. I called customer and left a message that we will be calling when they are in que and we can then order the key.Bureau response
09/11/2023
Jacob ******
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Dear Jacob ******:
This message is in regard to your complaint submitted on 9/9/2023 against Koons Westminster Toyota. Your complaint was assigned ID *********BBB has received a formal response from Koons Westminster Toyota. We ask that you review the response and understand that BBB is here to assist both parties in reaching a fair and reasonable resolution.Please review their response to your complaint and advise us of your position in the matter within 5 calendar days. If we do not hear back from you, BBB will assume you are satisfied and will close your complaint as answered.
Please be sure to indicate whether the business' response is satisfactory or not and how you would like to proceed in this matter.
If you received this complaint via Postal Mail, you may respond online using the link below or respond by mail using the address above.
To access/respond to this complaint online:
Go to: ****************
Enter the following code: **************Sincerely,
Lisa ****
Dispute Resolution Team Leader
***********************
Phone: ###-###-####
MESSAGE FROM BUSINESS:
Toyota had a chip shortage during the pandemic. There is now a program that they are releasing these keys in waves. This vin number does not currently have a release date. I called customer and left a message that we will be calling when they are in que and we can then order the key.Customer response
09/13/2023
Better Business Bureau:
Complaint ID *********
The call that the service manager made really isn't a resolution, it's more of the same waiting game. I'm willing to let this go for now, because I finally have some information on the process, but I will open another compliant if I don't have another key within the next 3-6 months. I shouldn't have to wait for something that I should have had at the time of signing for the car. You folks certainly wouldn't grant me the opportunity not to pay for the car until I had a second key, so I think it's only fair that I should get exactly what I'm paying for upfront. I'm relatively certain if I had made it a deal breaker at the time of signing for the car that I would have been able to get a second key.
Sincerely,
Jacob ******Bureau response
09/13/2023
Bob *****
Koons Westminster Toyota
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Dear Bob *****:
This message is in regard to a complaint submitted to BBB about your business on 9/9/2023 by Jacob ******. This complaint was assigned ID *********
BBB would like to thank you for your ******ation and response to the above-referenced consumer's complaint. After forwarding the consumer your response, the consumer notified our office the matter is resolved. Therefore we have closed this case accordingly.
If you have any questions, however, we are happy to assist you. Thank you for your ******ation in this matter and for your support of our self-regulatory goal.
Each year, millions of consumers contact BBB for pre-purchase information, and your response to this dispute will assist your future customers with making valuable purchasing decisions.
Sincerely,
Lisa ****
Dispute Resolution Team Leader
***********************
Phone: ###-###-####
MESSAGE:
Better Business Bureau:
Complaint ID *********
The call that the service manager made really isn't a resolution, it's more of the same waiting game. I'm willing to let this go for now, because I finally have some information on the process, but I will open another compliant if I don't have another key within the next 3-6 months. I shouldn't have to wait for something that I should have had at the time of signing for the car. You folks certainly wouldn't grant me the opportunity not to pay for the car until I had a second key, so I think it's only fair that I should get exactly what I'm paying for upfront. I'm relatively certain if I had made it a deal breaker at the time of signing for the car that I would have been able to get a second key.
Sincerely,
Jacob ******Bureau response
09/13/2023
Jacob ******
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Dear Jacob ******,
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Dispute Resolution Team Leader
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Phone: ###-###-####Initial Complaint
02/07/2023
- Complaint Type:
- Product Issues
- Status:
- Resolved
On January 26 2023 I purchased a 2021 Toyota Venza from Koons Toyota. The problem is the driver and passenger side windows both have a film residue from glass tinting removal.When asked about it I was told it was no problem. After I purchased the vehicle it was still there. On Tuesday January 31 I went back to Koons to try and resolve the issue. At that time it was decided that the windows could not be cleaned. The only solution is to replace the windows at an approximate cost of 1150$ They say it’s not there problem because they didn’t remove the tinting. They did not bring this up during negotiations if so I would never have purchased the vehicle. I would like them to replace both windows at there cost.Business response
02/07/2023
Previous customer had tint on front door windows then removed. After investigating, this vehicle did have a service bulletin from Toyota stating
windows can not have tint installed then removed due to damage to factory coating. Dealer contacted customer and will be replacing both front
window glasses at no charge to customer.
Customer response
02/07/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
Sincerely,
Terry *****Initial Complaint
10/21/2022
- Complaint Type:
- Customer Service Issues
- Status:
- Answered
6/25 2022 purchase new Toyota Tacoma had own financing was told by salesman I had to do another credit application I explained I didn't had own financing he said it was a law and they had to take info but they would not run it and I wouldn't take a hit on credit score two weeks later I receive credit from application they had ran first thing second thing have not received registration for truck yet several calls to them and visited local DMV keep hearing same answer they blame my DMV worst buying experience of my life only put a few thousand miles on truck because no registration don't like be lied to about credit app and really don't understand why no one followed up on my registration after calling calling 5 times not sure if you have to have salesman license but if so would love to see there's revokedBusiness response
11/08/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/10/24) */ 10/24 Called Mr. Smith to rectify the situation expressed in his Case Description. Currently Awaiting consumer to call back, address issues with tags and registration and overall purchase experience.
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Customer Complaints Summary
7 total complaints in the last 3 years.
4 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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