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  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    On 1/22/2025 I entered an agreement and was billed by voiply to port my decades old home phone over to voiply. After poor voiply service, I decided to cancel voiply and received a refund on 1/27/2025. On 1/29/2025, my decades old phone line went dead. Assuming voiply stole my home phone number, I called voiply. My suspicions were correct. Voiply had stolen my decades old ******* home phone line without an account number, my authorization, or a pin. This is illegal. INSTEAD OF FIGHTING VOIPLY AND KEEPING COMMUNICATION OPEN WITH MY FAMILY OVER THE DEATH IN THE FAMILY. I REOPENED AN ACCOUNT WITH **********************. I HAD NO CHOICE AT THEIR STRONG HOLD METHOD. I have had to call voiply 6 times today due to their poor customer service. The companies employees are incompetent. The last lady hung up on me. She said I will fix it and send you an email. I HAVE HEARD THAT 5 times before. She then hung up on me. Voiply is a Horrible cruel company and should not be permitted to do business in the ***. THIS IS NOT AN *****************

    Customer response

    01/31/2025

    D P <********************>
    Attachments
    Jan 30, 2025, 6:06 PM (14 hours ago)
    to me

    See attached emails validating my statements and their communication to cancel. Proof of refund and THEY DIDNT HAVE MY ACCOUNT NUMBER OR PIN.

    Business response

    02/07/2025

    ******,

    I sincerely apologize for any confusion or frustration caused by the porting process. When you initially signed up for our *********************** your number was automatically submitted to our carrier. While we did request porting details, some carriers do not require an account number or PIN, which was the case for your number.

    After successfully porting your number you did want to continue using our service, which we reactivated. After some technical difficulties you then decided to cancel your account which we did. Your number remains active with Voiply and is fully portable to any provider of your choice.

    If you decide to continue with our service, we are happy to assist in any way possible. If you prefer to transfer your number elsewhere, you can initiate a port request with your new provider at any time.

    Thank you,
    Voiply

    Customer response

    02/11/2025

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    VOIPLY STOLE MY NUMBER. I PROVIDED PROOF TO THE BBB, VALIDATING MY ACCOUNT WAS TERMINATED. I RECEIVED A CREDIT CARD CREDIT FROM VOIPLY WHICH ended ANY FUTURE business. VOIPLY did not have my account number, portout pin or my permission to take my phone number. That is criminal. 

    This company illegally slammed my phone number forcing me to do business with them JUST TO SAVE MY NUMBER. 

    VOIPLY COMMITS CRIMINAL OFFENSES DOING BUSINESS IN THE **** 


    Regards,

    ****** ********

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Resolved
    I first tried to use VoiPLy to port my number on November 15, 2024. I am a *********** volunteer in ********** and needed to stop my service with ******* and port my number to an online service. I filled out the simple application and was told it would take ***** hours for my port request to update, which was fine. Then the request was rejected. I spoke to one of the customer service members who said that the PIN for my ******* account was incorrect. I thought I perhaps miswrote the PIN on my application, so I told them my PIN and the port request was resubmitted. Again, rejected. Then it was my account number that was wrong. (But why wouldn't they have told me that the first time?) Again, rejected. Then I came to find out you have to search for a "porting PIN" (why was that on in the original instructions?!) so I did that and resubmitted the request with a porting PIN. I felt 100% certain that everything was correct. But again, the request was rejected. Then a customer service *** says that I actually need to submit a customer service record (??) to submit the request. Again, this was never in the original directions, and I had already bothered ******* with all of this. I am now looking for another service. This company is dysfunctional.

    Business response

    12/06/2024

    Dear *****,

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused during the number porting process. While the process is seamless in 98% of cases, occasionally, porting numbers from major carriers like ******* can encounter challenges. These carriers often require precise details and may reject requests for minor discrepancies.

    That said, I see that your number was successfully ported on December 3rd. If you experience any issues with your service or have additional concerns, please dont hesitate to reach out to our support team. Were here to help.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    Best regards,
    The Voiply Team

     

    Customer response

    12/06/2024

    [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. 

    Regards,

    ***** *******
  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    I signed up to annual residential VoIP phone service from Voiply in August, 2024. The plan I signed up for includes unlimited local and long-distance calling (see first attachment) . I received a bill this month (November 2024) for $14.64 for "outgoing call minutes" (see second attachment). It seems that starting in October, Voiply began charging an extra fee of $0.015 per minute for outgoing monthly minutes over 500. ********* were not informed of this, and the terms of service make no mention of this charge in specific terms. When I protested this charge to Voiply, customer service representatives claimed that I had abused their service by using ***** outgoing minutes in the month of November. They based their claim on the terms of service as quoted from ******************************************** "13.1 Abuse of Unlimited Usage - The Customer agrees to use unlimited voice ..... provided the aggregate usage that falls within the range of similarly situated business customers. ********************** reserves the right to review usage of unlimited usage plans to ensure there is no abuse of such plans. Usage that substantially exceeds the average volume of its other usage plan customers is deemed abusive...... ********************** may terminate the Services .... if it determines, in its sole discretion, that the Customer is abusing of an unlimited usage plan. Further, Voiply may terminate the ********* service and/or charge additional fees if the ********* usage is considered abusive in the sole discretion of Voiply. Such additional fees shall be charged at the then current rate established by Voiply, of at least $.03 per minute for voice calls and/or $.05 per facsimile page. " Voiply makes no attempt to share statistics for what is considered normal use, and 500 minutes is a ridiculously low bar for abuse of an Unlimited plan. I have exhanged emails with Voiply asking for a refund, or at least to clearly state that their Unlimited residential service is actually very limited, but they were of no help.

    Business response

    12/06/2024

    Dear *****,

    Thank you for sharing your feedback with us. Were sorry to hear that our service hasnt met your expectations. While we strive to offer unlimited minutes to our customers, we also have safeguards in place to prevent misuse of the system. Please know that were not implying misuse on your part, even with the ***** numbers used. These measures are simply in place to protect all our customers and our services.

    If youd like to proceed with canceling your account, please contact our support team, and well be happy to assist you through the cancellation process.

    We value your business and hope to continue serving you. However, if you decide otherwise, we wish you nothing but success moving forward.

    Best regards,
    The Voiply Team

    Customer response

    12/06/2024

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    Voiply has already made clear to me after I complained to them that they will charge me for outgoing minutes over 500. My complaint is that they made no such indication on their sales page where I bought my annual "Unlimited" plan. They made no indication that there is a 500 minute limit to the plan. Had I known this, I would not have bought it. Voiply has not addressed this complaint throughout our correspondence. It is an underhanded business practice and I should receive a refund, after which I will cancel my plan. A more upstanding company would have made this clear at the time of purchase, or at least stated in their Terms of Service how many minutes would be over the limit. Voiply has done neither, and it makes me upset.

    Regards,

    ******** *********
  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Resolved
    I moved three residential phone numbers from my Cable Provider to Voiply over a month ago. One is supposed to be voicemail only, and the other two are for true ************* I have sent them countless emails to get this straightened out, without success. Not having these services for this long has been and continues to be a hardship.

    Business response

    11/12/2024

    Dear *****,
    We apologize for the challenges you've encountered in managing your accounts. Our team has been assisting you with both your parking and residential reactivation accounts. Those issues have been resolved. Additionally, we have applied a one-month billing adjustment.
    Please dont hesitate to reach out if there is anything more we can do to support you.
    Thank you,
    Voiply

    Customer response

    12/09/2024


    I'm sorry I did not respond within the allowed time-frame. It's not fair
    to the business. My dad has been having health issues that now require
    my attention. If you can add my response to the complaint it would be "I
    am happy with the outcome. It's just too bad it took a complaint to the
    BBB to get it resolved"

    Regards,

    *****

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    Voiply claims to offer reliable service. After a few months, our service went down. The chat log agent just advised me to do a factory reset, with no awareness or interest in what their device's problem is. A phone is our emergency link, if we need police or fire. Having Voiply go offlineand not allow calls is just not acceptable. The agent did not even apologize, he just said 'oh, use our app from your phone...' - if I had a working cell phone, why would I need their app? I signed up and paid for a working ***** line over their voiply service. And they are failing to deliver the promised reliability. I asked for a way to comment on their service, and they refused. So I am left with having to complain to BBB, in the hopes they can improve their service, and th3eir customer service.

    Business response

    10/29/2024

    Hello *****, 

    We apologize for the inconvenience and the experience you had with our customer service. We understand the importance of uptime for all of our customers and realize the representative didn't troubleshoot your device properly. Were glad to hear that your issue has been resolved.

    Thank you for your feedback, as it helps us continue to improve our team. 

    Voiply

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    They made it impossible to cancel my account because they never registered my email address. I contacted customer service to cancel my account (see attached screenshot). Still, even after cancelling, this company charged my bank account TWICE. This is fraud.

    Business response

    09/10/2024

    ***** ********** 

    Thank you for reaching out and bringing this to our attention. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience you encountered while signing up. After reviewing your account, we have confirmed that the email address we have on file is **********************

    We also wanted to inform you that while you may notice charges appearing on your card, no funds were transferred to us. These charges are likely authorizations that will clear from your card within a few days, and no action is needed on your part.

    We wish you the best of luck. 

    Thanks,

    Voiply

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    July 23 2024 Lehh Then Felix and The rest In Full Detail to read the Pictures to show the emails to ever I said here don't worry My Legal rep has a copy as well everything Here an A Legal Rep In Phill Pa And Canada. Who Also advised what the and did do there practices and cover ups .

    Customer response

    08/27/2024

    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
    From: *******************
    Date: Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:57 AM
    Subject: ***** here
    To: <info@pittsburgh.bbb.org>

    ************************ *** ** **** ** ***

    **** ** ******** **

     

     

    Voiply called me Back the man Over the phone that Tried to Speed talk over me Glad I recorded the Phone conversation that was Very Ignored My Boss told me

    I ask I reported everything here  in the complained

    They tried to any desk the web Site didn’t work the Voiply dialer kept spinning

    The man over the phone said  it worked fine ***** tried it didn’t work she Voiplys tech support employee there

     

    I told the Franz Fixed this last minth same problem with the Calling out the firm franz said he updated seemed to Dix the problem las Sunday 4 pm they turned it Of or messed up the confiyouration then tried to blaime me it was my fault that the web site link wasn’t woring to sign into my Portal I cut and pates sent them the Pictures the Man over SPEED talked and said it works  fine I said what page do you he kep on speed talking blah blah blaf  like a 100 miles an hr daid give me 10 mins of your’e time we exhausted vert thing suggest I go some where else that he would refund me I said I reported yous in what you had did he said that’s fine and said we can’t meet your’e need the services worked fine until they changed there setting’s to get this ***** to set up a premiere she the Business side fazed out he didn’t even mentioned  that so you have the emails

    The CRTC in Canada And The FCC won’t Put up with type of Behavior from this compony  if there Automated AI’s  take 2 people for so called compony

    I’m going to recommend there

    Licence Reviewed or Suspend  for the they treat people and the way there Employees  operate .

    Business response

    09/03/2024

    Dear *****, 

    Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback regarding the migration of your account. We understand that changes of this nature can sometimes be challenging, and we apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced during this process.

    However, it's important to maintain a respectful and professional tone in all interactions with our team members. Unfortunately, the language used during your communication with our agent was not in line with the standards we uphold for respectful dialogue. As a result, we made the decision to offboard your account.

    We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and hope that you find a service that meets your needs.

    Thank you again for your feedback.

    Sincerely,

    Voiply

    Customer response

    09/03/2024

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    It was the Total Opposite -When the agent Called they Did Not read any of the Notes what So Ever Turns Out they reset My Adapter remotely back to Factory default setting when you do that what Information they Put in to remotely use the set up with there Updates to get the software working is there LACK OF KNOLWAGE and was proven 

    The Provider Pulled the History thats default set in the Adapter show the time stands the days Sunday when they did this in my first report and left it without even checking .
    In conclusion they will be Noted as a Third party Reseller thats not to trusted I've seen Other Complaint's In Canada here from THE BBB  abut them the provider also have the Complaint's about Voiply doing this to Other customers  I have the records 
    the Person I spoke On the Phone Spoke 100 miles and hr wouldn't give me the lead way to talk he sped up like he was overcharged .
    I placed the Phone call back to the provider here and they agree with 100 % don't get Involved with they will be Noted On there practices Ling to about the site working when it wasn't I gave the Link that was Provided to from the OUTBOUND team ***** and it was re directed to ****** ****** her chat even the provider checked the source of there web page and the Dead Link they provider in any cause there On Notices and will ever achieve the status they where hoping for .They where Told they weren't dealing with an Amateur here and 2 staff people in The Philippines and On the weekend all calls where re verted to  Re Not Buis .. yes really night and No one working the One was On Facebook I found here chatting she wasn't working i know it was her day off I asked to Franz to fix he seam to more then ***** Did 
     you can not run a Buisness like with Only one person answering the Phone and only 6 employees  to run the rest automated now.I was in the right they won't . I had every right to be up sent when they hire people to a job they being paid for but all of a sudden they knew what they did turned and tried to Blame My Provider (i have the email My Provider I work Had Nothing to Do with them resetting it they didn't have any access to the ATA GrandStreem Adapter so there. They REMOPATLY went In to the ATA Adapter reset it back to default setting then Try to blame it was My Provider the rest was sent to The BBB Canada ALSO has this On there sind and the FCC was Notified and sent the phone calls all emails and the times stamps when they did this remotely.

     

    Regards,

    ***** *

    Business response

    09/09/2024

    *****, 

    Thank you for sharing your feedback with us. We're truly sorry to hear that you feel this way about your experience. We strive to provide the best service possible, and while we're sorry we didn't meet your expectations, we wish you all the best in the future.

    Thank you, 

    Voiply 

    Customer response

    09/09/2024

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, we would like to know your view on the matter.]

    Regards,

    ***** *

    They Fully Know what They Are Doing . When then Reset My ATA Adapter The tried To Blame My Inter provider One My Internet provider has Nothing to with VOICE OVER IP Connections Such As VOIPLY The Reseller Dose.

     

    The Each Depart worked of One Gererated Number the gos back to the Phillipenes  no matter if the customers calls Tech Support as listed On there Not Fefuncet web site there still have up but the links went NO weare But the Umber is us but forwords back to Billing and where Only 3 people the whole  running this Most automated PHONE IVR pre 1 press 2 press 3 

     

    press 3 over in over would come back stating to leave a call or press pound to remain in cue after 10 it hang's up all morning the fist time I called they didn't Pick up they work 12 hrs a head there time not Regular Day time hrs  leaving the Customer what do I do next they did get a reference number after astablishiing there take the customers iinfo to VERIFY who they are

     

    there system Hangs up Not away to be dealing with there customer's they CLAIM on the AUTO IVR phone messate there via chat site help or live phone **** told us from there Onboarding team they don't do chats I said since when ***** - just 2 weeks ago it was Franz he fixed then it stopped working cause they re set the adapter back to defualt setting when it's not Programed to there componey's specifications to get pointing updates then it's Not going to work when the Person called me ver rude not letting me speak over the phone go check the messages he refulsed to let me speak and tried to get me to anydesk we don't sue any test this can take hold of some pc then make change if there the Customer No compony is a loud to use any HACKERS use is to got them  On there techiques.

     

     

    the Man over the Phone tried to claim the sire worked fine as you can see from other compaint's they tried this to when Out bound calls didn't work and they check there adaptors ither found nothing set up or it's been reset reseting to default will work with that SPACIFIC  3party RESELELR Untill it's CONFIGOURED CORRECTLY 

     

    So please before they try to cover there tracks but sending there short version they didn't all they make sure it wasn't AI Generated like there other programs are which Not allowed

     

    Onlt there 30 Momy back Guerrentee  the Bill was $18 and some change the amount's where the same coming off my credit card this with the exchange they didn't put back the Mount they took off with the Exchnage the credit card will file the complaint they have every right to under the customers request on that part there Not Nieeve or stupid when it comes to Send back the funds and are well aware of canadian amarican exchange rates are and the amount had to the specified amount they didn't was less .

     

    This compony what they Put Down on a web page and what the Employees do are two diffrent thing they may read but don't follow what need's to to Many RISKS Factors they take down .

    Visa Debit purchase - **** ****** ***** this amount was take as the 30 day month charge ever month for the Buisness account I has with Voiply

     

    The The Sent Back and it's the Principal the Credit card compony said $24 or $26.27 it has the same amount they tool off ion July .

    for there services this what the sent back

    Sep 6, 2024 **** ***** ****** * ****
    VOIPLY $24.56

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    I requested to port two phone numbers from the carrier I use to ******************************* in 9/2023. The purpose was to keep the number while they will not be used for about one year. As of 9/25/2023 both carriers reported successful porting. And I started paying monthly to the new VOIPLY from 9/2023 on. Early 8/2024, I decided to port these two numbers back from h********************** to my current carrier, one number was successfully ported back. But the phone number ********** cannot be found during the porting. VIOPLY escalation ticket to track the issue is '************ VOIPLY could not find the number ********** in their system except it is in their billing system, and they charge me monthly. I paid for an online service to check the number ********** and found it is owned by someone else. I have been waiting for VOIPLY to resolve the issue, VOIPLY asked me to contact T-Mobile to get the number back. This is beyond unprofessional, they lost my number and ask me to get it back. This is a number under my name, and it is being used by my daughter. This phone number is a crucial asset for her and for my family. All of her contacts and social media access are attached to that phone number. As of now, she does not have a phone number to use, it is very inconvenient. She is losing income because of that. Besides that, both she and I have been suffering mentally because it is really a BIG issue. VOIPLY has been keeping us in dark in the process, they have only returned one phone call and have been silent all of the time. Please see a copy of monthly billing for the phone number ********** from VOIPLY attached. I hope BBB can help to get my phone number back. I also hope BBB can help inspect VOIPLY’s operations to see what is the fault that resulted in such a failure, so that other consumers will not need to suffer from similar painful experience. I have provided their web page above, you can also call them at ** ***** ********* ** ***********

    Business response

    09/03/2024

    ** ******

    First and foremost, we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and frustration this has caused. We fully understand the importance of retaining a phone number, and we deeply regret that our actions led to this situation.

    As a part of our commitment to resolving this issue, we have already issued a reimbursement and have multiple conversations over the phone. Please be assured that we are making every possible effort to retrieve the number by calling the current phone number owner. 

    We value you as a customer and deeply regret that this incident occurred. We are taking steps to ensure that similar issues do not arise in the future.

    Best Regards, 
    Voiply

    Customer response

    09/18/2024

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    I do not agree with the resolution, here are the reasons:

    I never agreed the compensation will be all the resolution. The resolution is to get my number back, plus the compensation for the trouble VOIPLY has caused me. The mere little amount  is nowhere close to compensating the trouble you have caused me: I do not have a permanent number to use, as a result I have to use a temp number. I need that number ********** *ack since that is my permanent number that is attached to all of my social media and other accounts and all of my contacts know that number. It is impacting my daily life and my income because of then loss of this phone number.

    VOIPLY did not let me know the status of my number for almost 2 weeks until I filed complaint against them on FCC and Better Business Bureau. According to them, the porting of the number was successful in 9/2023. But in 1/2024, the number was released to the public, and then was assigned to someone else by another operator. They did not tell me why the hack they released my number, and they did not know that number was released until more than half year later when I need to port the number out. Now you can see how poorly this company is managing customers’ phone numbers. You really do not know whether your phone number will be still be yours at the end of the day, and neither VOIPLY knows.
    I have the right to know how you lost my number. If this problem is not fixed, VOIPLY will cause trouble for other consumers in the future. I am doing this not only for me, but for the would-be impacted consumers.


    Regards,

    ***** *****

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    On May 1st, we ordered VOIPLY to move our landline from Optimum. We requested the port of the phone number, and once it went through, we had no dial tone. We tried to install VOIPLY equipment and called their customer service, but despite their (weak) troubleshooting attempts, it did not work. I said, OK, please cancel the service and we'll return your equipment. Upon cancelling we expected our Optimum service to resume working but it did not, because VOIPLY never ported the number back. I called VOIPLY and said I still need people to reach me at this landline, can you please forward calls to my cell instead, which they did for an additional $4 a month. I decided to move to Verizon service. I've called multiple times connecting VERIZON and VOIPLY to get VOIPLY to port the number to VERIZON. VERIZON says VOIPLY needs to provide a pin, the one given doesnt work. VOIPLY says my account is "cancelled" so they cant help. PLEASE HELP ME GET MY LANDLINE BACK. Often when I call VOIPLY Customer Service, no one answers, despite advertising 24/7/365 service

    Business response

    06/04/2024

    ****** 

    Sorry to hear you had trouble porting your number back to Verizon. From our conversation, we discussed the porting process, the time it takes, and confirmed that your number is still in our inventory with forwarding working properly. Currently, the number is pending the port-out process, and your new provider is working to acquire it. I apologize for the inconvenience, but I'm glad everything got sorted out.

    Thanks, 

    Voiply. 

  • Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Answered
    RE ACCOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH : ************  Voiply user services have had near constant technical usage issues the past 12 months plus frequently resulting in disconnected phone calls, no dial tone, outages, warped interference, features not working properly, website/app not functioning. Exhaustive efforts to remedy the techincal problems with their support department only result in short term solutions before the problems recurs. While service retention is desired to keep service, a request for fair billing compensation and credit for a term of 6 months was denied. While they did offer only 1 month of billing credit, it does not overall justify the ongoing hassle and disturbance of anticipated usgae. Please at minimum, issue another 5 months or longer of our next billing term,

    Business response

    04/11/2024

    ** ******

    Thank you for being a customer of Voiply—we truly appreciate your business. You became a customer on March 2, 2023. During your time with us, we are pleased to note that there were no complaints while your service was active. Although you have requested six months of compensation, we are able to offer one month of credit. Please remember, if you had issues with your service our team is available 24/7/365 to assist.

    We wish you all the best!

    Thanks,
    Voiply

    Customer response

    04/12/2024

    Better Business Bureau:

    I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

    THERE HAVE BEEN AN ESTIMATED 40 PLUS TECHNICAL SERVICE ISSUE COMPLAINTS REPORTED TO VOIPLY SINCE SERVICE BEGAN.

    A SCREEN SHOT SHOWING AN OVERVIEW WAS EMAILED TO THEM AND THEY ARE HIGHLY AWARE OF SAME.

    THEIR RESPONSE IS NOT TRUTHFUL AND EXTERNAL ESCALTION EFFORTS WILL CONTINUE NOW ABOVE BBB FPR JUST CREDIT.

    Regards,

    ***** ******

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